string(7) "firearm" string(0) "" ["filter"]=> string(0) "" string(15) "Phoenix 9MM SBR" ["post_content_filtered"]=> Another change that allowed the company to drop both cost and weight on the mid-length, direct-impingement Rogue is the use of a non-adjustable gas block, as opposed to the Revolution DIs nine-position Dictator gas block (the sample shown here has a Dictator, stock Rogues do not). string(0) "" ["post_excerpt"]=> ["post_excerpt"]=> Traditional 7.62 NATO rifles, such as the G3/HK91, FAL and M1A/M14, are all heavy, with the handling qualities of a '71 Buick on skinny bias-ply tires. Aero Precision M5E1 AR-10 Complete Rifle. consists of two pieces. Specs (16-inch variant, via Ruger) Barrel Length: 16.1 inches Overall Length: 34-to-37.25 inches depending on stock position Length of pull: 11-to-14.25 inches Height: 7.2 inches from grip bottom. In comparison, a standard Bravo Company 5.56mm AR-15 bolt carrier assembly weighs 11.6 ounces. ["post_content_filtered"]=> ["post_password"]=> int(0) Labradar, digital scale, Super 1050, Lee turret, the works. Only approx 500 rounds through it. Despite how light it is, I found it to be smooth shooting and easy to control for a 7.62x51mm NATO. string(7) "firearm" I was able to pick one up from the first release. ["ID"]=> What rifle would you recommend? By switching from machined billet receivers to 7075 aluminum forgings, a different barrel and eliminating some premium features POF-USA was able to reduce the $2,699 base price of the Revolution to just $1,899 for the Rogue. BBB File Opened: 9/18/2009. ["post_content_filtered"]=> Thanks for the info! Oh, no. Its very fun to shoot, and yet could fill multiple roles. prescottEND TEST. Carved from American A2 steel, the Trigger, Disconnect, and Hammer are all Nitride Heat-Treated to 70 Rockwell case hardness for ultimate strength and corrosion resistance. Anybody have experience with the POF Rogue? The upper receiver assembly is cross-pinned onto a very unique 7075 forged aluminum lower receiver. Conditions were sunny and in the 90s with a bit of wind. string(0) "" You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. string(0) "" string(0) "" Patrick Sweeney gives some history on this interesting pistol. ["comment_status"]=> ["post_mime_type"]=> Years in Business: 21. While the Rogue functioned flawlessly with three of the four loads, I did have some extraction issues with the 150-grain Australian Outback load. You are using an out of date browser. string(19) "2021-01-04 08:42:44" ["comment_status"]=> string(4) "3120" ["post_content"]=> string(6) "closed" It would be easy to carry over hill and dale, fast handling and quick to the shoulder while delivering a traditional .30 caliber punch. string(19) "2022-05-09 16:12:05" ["post_content_filtered"]=> This adds a massive amount of rigidity to the overall platform and is critical when vertical fore grips are being pulled on the upper assembly. I have both the Rouge and thr Revolution. While our test sample did turn out to weigh a bit more than the sub-6-lb. A 1913 Picatinny rail is machined in at 12 oclock, allowing easy mounting of a front BUIS or various accessories. The Rogue carries very well due to both its short overall length and light weight. ["post_parent"]=> Internally, the Rogue uses the same Key-Lock bolt carrier group (BCG) as does the Revolution DI, with its nitrided carrier, chrome-plated firing pin, and nickel-plated bolt head and extractor. string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=128148" This lightweight hunting rifle can go with you without needless "lightening" cuts, all while delivering a rifle at a price point affordable to serious shooters. ["filter"]=> string(0) "" Better still, their new Rogue is less expensive too! string(1) "0" string(0) "" I'm happy with my DPMS GIIs but I agree, small frames are the future of AR10s. Had the rogue, zero issues. string(0) "" string(19) "2021-01-04 16:42:44" Review: POF-USA Minuteman Pistol - An Official Journal Of The NRA string(19) "2023-01-02 05:00:02" I think the barrel on the Revolution is of a higher specification as well. Here it is below my 16" 6.5 Grendel for scale, plenty of neg reviews on the rogue so buyer beware. The Rogue simply handles, shoulders and carries like a lightweight 5.56mm gunbut it punches like a .308 Win. string(4) "3120" int(0) Cartridges like the .224 Valkyrie, 6mm ARC, 6.5mm Grendel, 6.8x43mm Rem SPC, 300 AAC Blackout and 350 Legend add more punch to the AR-15. So sheer accuracy was not my main goal. If you DO absolutely need a large frame 308 I would go with an Aero M5 build (and anticipate some hiccups) or an ADM. Having several Aero builds, Colt, Geissele, and ADM I can honestly state that the ADM is worth every penny especially on non-uniform large frame AR10 systems. string(19) "2022-07-27 14:47:10" ["guid"]=> The bolt carrier on the Revolution (CMR), Revolution DI, and Rogue, requires a longer stroke in order to clear the longer .308 cartridges and/or . To run the Rogue suppressed you will need to add an adjustable gas block which will put you up close in weight to the Revolution. POF Rogue: sub-6lbs 308 - AR15.COM It's the second-most accurate load I've tried so far (1st place is Hornady 168gr Amax). string(19) "2022-07-27 07:47:10" ["to_ping"]=> string(13) "wonder-pistol" string(0) "" ["ping_status"]=> string(0) "" ["post_type"]=> The POF Rogue has been around a bit now, but you almost never hear about it vs. a traditional AR-10 build. ["filter"]=> ["post_title"]=> revolution-di-sbrobject(WP_Post)#7943 (24) { ["guid"]=> Australian Outbacks 150-grain Swift Scirocco II BTS load also averaged 2.3 inches and Winchesters 120-grain PDX1 Defender came in at 2.5 inches. Adjustments are easily made using the included tool, a simple flat head screwdriver or the rim of a cartridge. According to POF, the Rogue twist rate is designed for higher weight bullets so that may be a consideration for you. As has been stated it is a well thought out rifle. POF-USA includes their patented roller cam pin to reduce friction. Anyone have experience with the POF Prescott? : r/guns - Reddit Ruger likes to simplify things, and one thing the POF could have done with was being simplified. From their website - Complete modularity achieved by the Renegade Forend. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. The weight factor being the primary reason I was drawn to the platform due to the lengthy stalking we can get into. string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=114229" string(13) "p415-edge-sbr" SIG Sauer 716i TREAD: 2020 Reader's Choice for 'Best AR-10 Rifle' ["post_parent"]=> string(0) "" So, he burned the midnight oil, overcame every roadblock, problem and hurdle to bring what became the Revolution to market. Fitted to the receiver extension is a lightweight MFT six-position adjustable stock. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. string(0) "" ["menu_order"]=> ["post_author"]=> I really like the combo of light weight and a .308 round for a patrol rifle, but havent seen very many reviews. string(19) "2022-12-28 22:19:20" Most of the shots are rapid fire and immediate mag changes. All Rights Reserved. Operation is traditional direct impingement, which is what I prefer. Search. Brown POF Rogue with a UBR. My new hunting setup. : r/AR10 - Reddit They also offer a wide variety of build kits, including various Cerakote options that are available as limited runs. The smaller and lighter option for years now has simply been an AR-15 chambered for 5.56mm or one of the many other cartridges developed specifically for this platform. Examining the Rogue I noted the fit and finish to be excellent. POF ROGUE RFLE DI 16 11M RAIL 308 PBRN $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. string(0) "" ["post_password"]=> But most people would be hard pressed to find an AR with more design changes than those made by Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF). The Rogues weight loss relative to the Revolution DIs 6-lb., 13-oz., heft was accomplished primarily through three ways: by thinning out the upper and lower receivers in non-critical areas, by using a slimmer contour of barrel and by including a shorter, 11.5"-long Renegade handguard. ["post_modified_gmt"]=> The new POF-USA Renegade + rifle takes the company's standard direct gas impingement AR to the next level. All Rights Reserved. string(7) "firearm" string(7) "publish" 7.62x51mm NATO too Cold War era for you? An ambidextrous charging handle makes running the bolt from either side a snap. I thought the accuracy was excellent after a little load work given what the rifle is, it's work to shoot a 6lb semi-auto .308 for groups. I only uploaded a couple and then my phone up and died completely and I had the photos stored on internal memory and not the removable flash card. Here Are 5 Reasons To Consider One! Gun Review: POF-USA Renegade + Rifle - Gun Digest The 308 That Handles Like a 223: Ruger SFAR Review It also features four M-Lok-compatible slots at the 3-, 6- and 9-oclock surfaces and a pair of push-button sling mounts on each side. The rifles 416R stainless-steel barrel is threaded 5/8x24 TPI and capped with POFs five-prong Micro B muzzle brake. ["post_title"]=> I moved away from semi-auto .308 Win/7.62x51mm NATO gas guns years ago for a few reasons. ["post_password"]=> Email us at FirearmsNews@Outdoorsg.com. This is not the case with the Revolution. string(1) "0" According to POF, the Rogue twist rate is designed for higher weight bullets so that may . Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways. string(0) "" string(6) "closed" The carrier group itself features a nitride finish and weighs 11 ounces. Ive never had a single issue. If you can afford it though, this is an interesting and hard-hitting lightweight carbine capable of performing a variety of missions. You must log in or register to reply here. string(3) "raw" There is a reason POF-USA recommends using specific magazines. At three inches long it completely encompasses the chamber and throat area of the barrel where expanding gas temperatures peak. I asked POF if the Rogue twist rate would be 1-8 for .308, That is correct, the ideal grain weight range for that will be 155gr to 180gr.. While POF advertises this skeletonized trigger to have a non-adjustable pull weight of 4 lbs., 8 ozs., our test sample was a bit lighter than that, with 10 measured pulls averaging right at4 lbs. It's better now. ["pinged"]=> Our enhanced backbone receiver also move the uppers natural stress point forward. string(17) "Revolution PD SBR" There are a lot of good videos on youtube about the Revolution. string(4) "3120" string(0) "" string(19) "2022-12-28 14:19:20" POF USA Rifles for Sale Online - Patriot Ordnance Factory string(0) "" string(19) "2022-12-28 22:34:32" } string(0) "" Took some technique modification to keep from doubling the light-sh trigger while shooting from the bench for me. Our Keylock Bolt Carrier Group is comprised of a Nitride heat treated carrier and stainless-steel gas key. ["post_date_gmt"]=> Don't buy one without watching this first. David Fortier is with CEO of Silencer Central Brandon Maddox at Roundtable 2022. string(0) "" To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. string(9) "Rogue SBR" Light, low recoil, well thought out, very fun to shoot. It's s just the stock POF rogue hand guard. string(0) "" rogue-sbrobject(WP_Post)#7946 (24) { ["post_modified_gmt"]=> All Firearms News subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. int(0) One new winner* is announced every week! string(7) "publish" I just got a 16.5" Rogue and here's how it's set up now: Scepticism is an exercise, not a life; it is a discipline fit to purify the mind of prejudice and render it all the more apt, when the time comes, to believe and to act wisely. Although several of our evaluators were initially concerned that POFs weight-reduction efforts might have pushed the carbine into too much of a good thing territory given its authoritative chambering, all the shooters had changed their minds by the end of the session. "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.". The small frame and light weight are amazing, the minimal recoil, especially given the light weight, makes it doubly so. Give them a penny, and the guys here will spend your last dollar. However, whereas the lower of the Revolution DI is fully bilateral (with bolt releases, magazine releases and safeties on each side), the Rogue has the more standard setup of only a right-side magazine release and a left-side bolt release in addition to its bilateral 90-degree safeties. While the short brake helps with recoil, utilizing the PDX1 load further reduces it, yet you are still pushing a 120-grain slug at 2,910 fps. string(6) "closed" They're known in the industry as one of the biggest quality manufacturers of lowers and uppers for other AR makers. I'm considering getting a Revolution; I like the idea of ambi controls and the adjustable gas block for suppressor use. ["ID"]=> ["post_modified_gmt"]=> Do you have any other suggestions for for a rifle? int(128149) Founded by Frank . string(0) "" string(1) "0" I have wanted to get my hands on a Rogue since this model was introduced. string(7) "publish" string(19) "2022-05-09 08:31:51" POF-USA Revolution Review - RifleShooter ["comment_count"]=> I'm running the OSS HD-7.62Ti and couldn't be happier as it functions the same with the can on or off (so it may work really well with the Rogue and it's also POF's preferred suppressor). string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=129246" This is truly an AR-15 with a 7.62x51mm NATO magazine well. This prevents carrier-tilt and premature wear of the buffer tube. The barrel is a very light profile so the balance isn't the best but it's very easy to carry around. The Criteron barrels ADM uses blew me away. ["pinged"]=> And to the companys credit, each new revision of the Revolution has both weighed and cost substantially less than its forebear, while retaining most of the innovations that separate POFs products from run-of-the-mill AR-pattern rifles. Give a Gift The POF-USA Rogue also utilizes the company's patented and proprietary E2 Dual-Extraction Technology chamber that floats the fired cartridge case right out of the gun, thus increasing reliability. This features their pictogram safety markings plus ambidextrous safety. ["post_status"]=> $ 2500 do it ? I understand the appeal of being . ["post_status"]=> If you have any thoughts or comments on this article, wed love to hear them. I have seen the bad reviews and that is honestly the biggest reason to consider the sig. The result is a 7 lb pound 6.5 Creedmoor rifle . ["post_date_gmt"]=> It would make a great woods gun. So, this design isnt an AR-10, nor is it a small frame design like the Colt 901 which others copied years later. int(0) Damn. 9mm luger (9x19 para) . Had a 12.7 revolution, zero issues. tombstone-9mmobject(WP_Post)#7938 (24) { ["post_modified"]=> string(19) "2022-05-09 15:51:26" I used Magpul magazines and the rifle ran without issue. string(0) "" I have been buying more factory loaded 7.62NATO with its price converging with m193. POF-USA 4.5lb Drop-In Match Grade Trigger - Now included with . I have a few thousand rounds through my Revolution and it's run flawlessly the whole time with everything I've thrown at it. Perfect for concealed and everyday carry, the Springfield Armory Hellcat Pro is feature-packed and built for rough use. ["post_type"]=> ["menu_order"]=> Affixing the barrel to the upper is an oversize barrel nut designed to act as a heat sink, dissipating heat far more efficiently than the standard mil-spec part. I asked their CS on how to get one. 7.62x51mm nato semi auto 20 rounds 16.5 barrel. That weight number is awesome. I don't know of any production rifles in 308 Winchester with a 1-8" twist. ["ping_status"]=> ["post_date_gmt"]=> string(19) "2022-12-28 14:22:26" ["post_modified"]=> The same few tend to get echoed around, so it's hard to tell how many there are. ["post_excerpt"]=> . string(3) "raw" ["menu_order"]=> I know the one thing many of you are wondering is, How bad does a 5.9-pound .308 Win AR-15 kick?. ["filter"]=> ["post_date"]=> The .308 POF Revolution has the same receiver dimensions as a 5.56/.223 AR-15. int(0) POF P-415 14.5" barrel. string(1) "0" string(4) "3120" TIA! A better brake helps the shoot ability. POF is top notch and the managed to cram a 308 in an AR15 platform. While this adds a few ounces, I selected it as an option for testing. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. int(0) ["to_ping"]=> This is nicely contoured and has a non-slip rubber pad. Its my go-to for hog hunting. Marlin Model 1895 Trapper Lever-Action Rifle: First Look. You have my interest POF particularly at $1500 street price. int(0) ["post_parent"]=> string(0) "" The Rogue doesn't have the ambidextrous features or the nitate coated fluted barrel. string(0) "" The E feature is designed to aid extraction and improve reliability. patriot ordnance factory (pof) rogue. ["post_date_gmt"]=> ["post_excerpt"]=> Back in 2012 I bought 2 POF rifles. string(17) "Renegade Plus SBR" That's pretty light. ["post_date"]=> The bizarre 8 twist barrel didn't seem to hurt anything I think the DI Revolutions have a longer gas system, so that might be an option. Patriot Ordinance Factory | Better Business Bureau Profile POF calls them "intermediate size" rifles, which is a fair label. Location of This Business. string(17) "revolution-pd-sbr" string(0) "" string(7) "firearm" David Fortier gets a chance to shoot the HK MP7 PDW at drivetanks.com. ["to_ping"]=> Next, I moved to shooting prone at a steel silhouette 280 yards away. Win a FREE Membership! Due to its very light weight the Rogue is very quick handling. ["menu_order"]=> string(0) "" string(0) "" The match-grade barrel assembly is fitted to a distinctive-looking flattop upper receiver. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I haven't seen the POF, but the bad reviews are enough for me. string(19) "2022-12-28 21:47:22" ["post_type"]=> AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. ["post_name"]=> Best AR-10 Rifles. int(128150) string(17) "revolution-di-sbr" ["post_author"]=> ["post_type"]=> Sleek and rugged mounting system, lightweight, and QD mounts in all the right places 2 per side. ["post_name"]=> ["comment_status"]=> ["post_modified_gmt"]=> I always get them mixed up which one is the little one thats close to AR-15 size? ["post_password"]=> string(0) "" Go. Sniper's Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. string(0) "" This was Frank DeSommas thinking when he decided to chamber an AR-15 in .308 Win. Loads consisted of Winchesters 120-grain PDX1 Defender, Australian Outback 150-grain Swift Scirocco II BTS, Black Hills Ammunitions 178-grain ELD-X and Federals 185-grain Juggernaut Gold Medal Match. POF-USA recommends only using Magpul and Lancer magazines with the Rogue. Use the weight savings as an opportunity to add one. I m leaning towards the pof based on weight and the option to get and adjustable gas system easily( wish that had a 18 barrel with a rifle length system). One was simply the size and weight of the platform. string(19) "2023-01-09 08:27:30" Its a very nice-looking piece that not only invokes pride of ownership but will impress your friends and anyone who handles it. } AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. The trigger is good and broke at just under 4.5 pounds, but its not my favorite. ["post_modified"]=> Build it exactly how you want it. ["post_title"]=> POF-USA's Revolution possesses all the accuracy of a heavier, harder-kicking, bolt-action rifle in a trim, lightweight, autoloading package. Each iteration of POFs Revolution has thoroughly impressed us, and despite some of the lines bells and whistles having been removed from the Rogue, the most important ones are still present. ["post_title"]=> string(0) "" ["ping_status"]=> ["ping_status"]=> Or, you can just set it and forget it. ["guid"]=> ["post_type"]=> string(4) "3120" ["post_date"]=> ["post_date_gmt"]=> My Rogue really likes Tula 150gr steel cased ammo. The stock is comfortable and the buttpad provides a lot of surface area and doesnt slip around. string(3) "raw" string(13) "tombstone-9mm" ["post_parent"]=> Project Rogue was an exercise to turn the Revolution platform into the lightest .308 semi auto rifle on the market, and to do it without needless lightening cuts. I had one of the first ones, I put a dictator on it before I even shot it - the only problem I had is with DAG ammo. With the bolt carrier assembly being so light, I was curious as to how heavy the buffer itself was. (tested) Stock: MFT, adjustable Grip: MFT Length of Pull: 11.5 in. string(0) "" Shopping Cart Toggle navigation. ["post_title"]=> Custom KNS trigger pins lock it into place. string(6) "closed" The new olive drab finish gives that old school military feel. string(19) "2022-12-28 14:24:32" Ive been having my Revolution 308 for years. Next, I aimed in at my 11x20 inch LaRue at 450 yards. Anyone tried one of these? I had to send it back to POF for a new barrel because the accuracy was horrible. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. through it and I have decided it will replace the POF P-415 as my truck gun. ["guid"]=> Thats about 400 to 500 fps faster than a similar weight 6.5mm Grendel. ["comment_status"]=> int(130663) Accuracy through lightweight rifles can often sufferboth due to their thinner barrels heating up much more quickly and due to the added difficulty of shooting them wellyet the Rogue performed. The result appears to be an excellent general purpose or do-it-all rifle candidate. Its very cool. My 16" Rogue is everything I always wanted from a semi 308, after going through the many heavy, hard to scope, and inaccurate options out there. string(19) "2022-12-28 22:28:24" string(11) "Phoenix 9MM" When a review rifle recently arrived for Firearms News I found it to be a distinctive-looking piece with its lightened receivers, big .308 mag well and unique-looking muzzle device. ["post_mime_type"]=> string(13) "P415 Edge SBR" This is dramatically smaller and lighter than an AR-10 bolt carrier. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Accuracy through lightweight rifles can often sufferboth due to their thinner barrels heating up much more quickly and due to the added difficulty of shooting them wellyet the Rogue performed superbly in formal accuracy testing. A tungsten buffer makes a big difference in felt recoil IMO. string(9) "rogue-sbr" According to a recent Federal Emergency Management Agency report, fewer people are "prepping" today compared to previous years. string(0) "" For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The AR-15/M16 has been around since the mid-1960s, with various improvements added to make it more reliable. ["to_ping"]=> string(6) "closed" ["to_ping"]=> ["post_mime_type"]=> He much preferred the more powerful and more common .308 Win. ["post_name"]=> string(1) "0" James Tarr gets to talk to Steve Wilson of Rock River Arms about their RBG. Lauren Witt, Interdependence Public Relations, David M. Fortier, James Tarr and Michelle Hamilton. Review: POF-USA Rogue | An Official Journal Of The NRA ["post_mime_type"]=> It doesnt seem to make much sense, as AR-15s are too small to be chambered in .308 Win. ["post_content"]=> ["ping_status"]=> I've run around 500 rds. add to cart see details. Took some technique modification to keep from doubling the light-sh trigger while shooting from the bench for me. I dont want to troubleshoot something I just spent $1500 buying. An adjustable gas block and heavy buffer mostly fixes the reliability issues. Patriot Ordnance Factory 01662 Rogue Direct Impingement 308 Win,7.62x51mm NATO 16.50' 20+1 Black Anodized 6 Position MFT Stock.
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